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		<title>By: Sarah Puglisi</title>
		<link>http://educationpr.org/2007/04/14/a-teacher-researcher-network/#comment-7696</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sarah Puglisi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 06:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Check this out Paul
http://www.edsupport.cc/mguhlin/archives/2007/04/entry_3058.htm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check this out Paul<br />
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		<title>By: Sarah Puglisi</title>
		<link>http://educationpr.org/2007/04/14/a-teacher-researcher-network/#comment-7652</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sarah Puglisi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Paul, Doug&#039;s post is very interesting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Paul, Doug&#8217;s post is very interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Borderland &#187; Researching Back</title>
		<link>http://educationpr.org/2007/04/14/a-teacher-researcher-network/#comment-7620</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Borderland &#187; Researching Back]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 08:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] for Education Research. Sarah suggested setting up a national teacher-researcher network, and Paul wrote about that on his blog. According to Paul, Sarah said that &#8220;Research organizations like the AERA could [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for Education Research. Sarah suggested setting up a national teacher-researcher network, and Paul wrote about that on his blog. According to Paul, Sarah said that &#8220;Research organizations like the AERA could [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Puglisi</title>
		<link>http://educationpr.org/2007/04/14/a-teacher-researcher-network/#comment-7585</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sarah Puglisi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 20:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am going to admit that all of you are very ..intimidatingly intelligent...but I am going to, Paul, check out the Wiki stuff you listed. I am  needing to get reading and up to speed and will spend today with this and post something...I am doing something kind of revalatory for me, I posted about it on my blog. I&#039;m counting and categorizing all the research. I want a feel for it.
Overall I find it arising from classrooms, extremely heartening...well...lots to say after I finish. It&#039;s a simple thing to do, takes time, but I see things in a better way from it.

As a teacher I surely get a few things now.

So MUCH of this research is embedded in classrooms studying them. It&#039;s incredible the direct connection that allows for such rich work.

Phillip Kovacs and Doug Noon I respect beyond saying. Doug&#039;s model is one I know...
Well I&#039;m saying. I know they have much  to say...and I&#039;m kind  ...hoping that  this kind of wiki is built, or maybe i see trails to what is there to then think about this.
Sarah]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am going to admit that all of you are very ..intimidatingly intelligent&#8230;but I am going to, Paul, check out the Wiki stuff you listed. I am  needing to get reading and up to speed and will spend today with this and post something&#8230;I am doing something kind of revalatory for me, I posted about it on my blog. I&#8217;m counting and categorizing all the research. I want a feel for it.<br />
Overall I find it arising from classrooms, extremely heartening&#8230;well&#8230;lots to say after I finish. It&#8217;s a simple thing to do, takes time, but I see things in a better way from it.</p>
<p>As a teacher I surely get a few things now.</p>
<p>So MUCH of this research is embedded in classrooms studying them. It&#8217;s incredible the direct connection that allows for such rich work.</p>
<p>Phillip Kovacs and Doug Noon I respect beyond saying. Doug&#8217;s model is one I know&#8230;<br />
Well I&#8217;m saying. I know they have much  to say&#8230;and I&#8217;m kind  &#8230;hoping that  this kind of wiki is built, or maybe i see trails to what is there to then think about this.<br />
Sarah</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Noon</title>
		<link>http://educationpr.org/2007/04/14/a-teacher-researcher-network/#comment-7513</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Noon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 02:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seems like &lt;a href=&quot;http://wik.ed.uiuc.edu/index.php/Main_Page&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WikEd&lt;/a&gt;, hosted by the University of Illinois Dept of Ed Psych, is a project that would serve as a good model. It runs on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MediaWiki&lt;/a&gt;, like Wikipedia.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like <a href="http://wik.ed.uiuc.edu/index.php/Main_Page" rel="nofollow">WikEd</a>, hosted by the University of Illinois Dept of Ed Psych, is a project that would serve as a good model. It runs on <a href="http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki" rel="nofollow">MediaWiki</a>, like Wikipedia.</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
		<link>http://educationpr.org/2007/04/14/a-teacher-researcher-network/#comment-7512</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 02:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it was Doug who suggested there are no mechanisms, other than the tests themselves, in place, to monitor current *policy.*]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it was Doug who suggested there are no mechanisms, other than the tests themselves, in place, to monitor current *policy.*</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Kovacs</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After a brief exchange with Sarah off of this list, I need to clarify my brief remark. 

YES to more interaction, but a more important (in my opinion) YES! to teachers and researchers working together to put political pressure on legislators so that we might have the freedom and support to pursue all of these amazing ideas.

Sarah, please understand that I am frustrated by the lack of solidarity between teachers and scholars, and I truly hope that both will work closer together...and I say this as a former high school teacher and a current &quot;scholar.&quot; 

In response to Paul, I vehemently disagree that there are &quot;no&quot; mechanisms other than tests to measure student development and growth. 

Portfolios (for students and teachers), could be used to point out areas of strength and weaknesses, but right now there is a large political movement calling for standards and &quot;objective&quot; measurement.

There is a group of individuals who do not trust or believe in teachers, and they have convniced both politicians and publics that the only way to be sure that children are &quot;learning&quot; is through tests.

I disagree. Many teachers disagree. But who is listening to us disagree and what are we doing in order that our experiences and research are validated and acknolwedged when debating school reform?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After a brief exchange with Sarah off of this list, I need to clarify my brief remark. </p>
<p>YES to more interaction, but a more important (in my opinion) YES! to teachers and researchers working together to put political pressure on legislators so that we might have the freedom and support to pursue all of these amazing ideas.</p>
<p>Sarah, please understand that I am frustrated by the lack of solidarity between teachers and scholars, and I truly hope that both will work closer together&#8230;and I say this as a former high school teacher and a current &#8220;scholar.&#8221; </p>
<p>In response to Paul, I vehemently disagree that there are &#8220;no&#8221; mechanisms other than tests to measure student development and growth. </p>
<p>Portfolios (for students and teachers), could be used to point out areas of strength and weaknesses, but right now there is a large political movement calling for standards and &#8220;objective&#8221; measurement.</p>
<p>There is a group of individuals who do not trust or believe in teachers, and they have convniced both politicians and publics that the only way to be sure that children are &#8220;learning&#8221; is through tests.</p>
<p>I disagree. Many teachers disagree. But who is listening to us disagree and what are we doing in order that our experiences and research are validated and acknolwedged when debating school reform?</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Take a look at EduWikipedia
http://eduwikipedia.pbwiki.com/
and think about whether that&#039;s a model to follow, or to diverge from. 
Their focus is new technology.
I notice that it has been some months since anyone posted there. 
One thing we&#039;ve begun recently where I work is a page called &quot;What&#039;s the Research on. . . . ?&quot; which attempts to catalog all the web feature stories we have posted over the past 10 years, and make it searchable in a number of ways.
http://www.wcer.wisc.edu/articleindex/index.php
Paul]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look at EduWikipedia<br />
<a href="http://eduwikipedia.pbwiki.com/" rel="nofollow">http://eduwikipedia.pbwiki.com/</a><br />
and think about whether that&#8217;s a model to follow, or to diverge from.<br />
Their focus is new technology.<br />
I notice that it has been some months since anyone posted there.<br />
One thing we&#8217;ve begun recently where I work is a page called &#8220;What&#8217;s the Research on. . . . ?&#8221; which attempts to catalog all the web feature stories we have posted over the past 10 years, and make it searchable in a number of ways.<br />
<a href="http://www.wcer.wisc.edu/articleindex/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.wcer.wisc.edu/articleindex/index.php</a><br />
Paul</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Puglisi</title>
		<link>http://educationpr.org/2007/04/14/a-teacher-researcher-network/#comment-7498</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sarah Puglisi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 23:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yes...let&#039;s build a wiki...a beautiful idea. Paul?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes&#8230;let&#8217;s build a wiki&#8230;a beautiful idea. Paul?</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Noon</title>
		<link>http://educationpr.org/2007/04/14/a-teacher-researcher-network/#comment-7496</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Noon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 23:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It isn&#039;t news that policy making in the US is being driven from outside the education community, which makes AERA seem kind of (forgive the expression) &quot;academic&quot; to reporters, and teachers - to some extent.  Research that isn&#039;t relevant to the standards-based discourse which has come to dominate school staff meetings is of little interest to people with few options in practice. So I agree with Philip Kovacs comment about helping teachers gain political freedom to implement research from a range of theoretical perspectives.  

I ran into this in my MEd program, and it was a surreal Catch-22 situation where we had to get clearance to do things in our classroom that were completely normal, but because we called it &quot;research&quot; the review board thought &quot;experiment&quot; and hesitated, attaching weird conditions that gave parents permission to opt out - as if this was some kind of subversive activity. It was absurd, because all we really wanted was to try out a new idea, like Literature Circles for example, and report back on how it went.  Teachers do need a certain amount of political freedom to do even simple things in places where the scripting has gone over the edge, and that could be a problem - unless the teachers want to research THAT ( the scripting), which is what I would do in that situation, research the &quot;research.&quot;

I do see a great deal of value in a teacher-researcher network, however. I believe that a network of this nature could provide the political leverage to re-open lines of inquiry that are being closed off by the narrowed curricular focus resulting from high-stakes tests. Presently, there are no mechanisms, other than the tests themselves, in place to monitor current policy. A teacher-researcher network, even in an environment that is constrained by inflexible curricular mandates, could allow teachers the opportunity to &quot;research back&quot; and provide alternatives to the one-dimensional results we get from testing.

So, a national teacher-researcher network sounds good to me. The technology angle would suggest a wiki open to teacher researchers and Education academics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It isn&#8217;t news that policy making in the US is being driven from outside the education community, which makes AERA seem kind of (forgive the expression) &#8220;academic&#8221; to reporters, and teachers &#8211; to some extent.  Research that isn&#8217;t relevant to the standards-based discourse which has come to dominate school staff meetings is of little interest to people with few options in practice. So I agree with Philip Kovacs comment about helping teachers gain political freedom to implement research from a range of theoretical perspectives.  </p>
<p>I ran into this in my MEd program, and it was a surreal Catch-22 situation where we had to get clearance to do things in our classroom that were completely normal, but because we called it &#8220;research&#8221; the review board thought &#8220;experiment&#8221; and hesitated, attaching weird conditions that gave parents permission to opt out &#8211; as if this was some kind of subversive activity. It was absurd, because all we really wanted was to try out a new idea, like Literature Circles for example, and report back on how it went.  Teachers do need a certain amount of political freedom to do even simple things in places where the scripting has gone over the edge, and that could be a problem &#8211; unless the teachers want to research THAT ( the scripting), which is what I would do in that situation, research the &#8220;research.&#8221;</p>
<p>I do see a great deal of value in a teacher-researcher network, however. I believe that a network of this nature could provide the political leverage to re-open lines of inquiry that are being closed off by the narrowed curricular focus resulting from high-stakes tests. Presently, there are no mechanisms, other than the tests themselves, in place to monitor current policy. A teacher-researcher network, even in an environment that is constrained by inflexible curricular mandates, could allow teachers the opportunity to &#8220;research back&#8221; and provide alternatives to the one-dimensional results we get from testing.</p>
<p>So, a national teacher-researcher network sounds good to me. The technology angle would suggest a wiki open to teacher researchers and Education academics.</p>
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